Luka 10 ve Elçilerin İşleri 22'de "[hahamın ayaklarında]" kelimesinin anlamı nedir?

Question

Luka 10: 39'da Meryem "Rab'bin ayaklarının dibine oturdu ve öğretisini dinledi". Yaygın bir okuma, Meryem'in fiziksel olarak İsa'nın ayaklarının dibinde İsa'yı dinlediği şeklindedir. Bkz Luke 10 hesabında İsa'nın ayaklarına oturmak için bir kadına (Mary) için alışılmadık oldu mu?

Elçilerin İşleri 22: 3'te Pavlus, "Gamaliel'in ayakları altında eğitim aldığını" söyler.

Soru şu: "[haham] ayaklarında" ifadesi bir tür deyim mi? Eğer öyleyse, Luka Luka 10'daki Elçilerin İşleri 22'deki ile aynı anlamı uyguluyor mu? Teşekkürler!

Answer 1

Elçilerin İşleri 22: 3 İngilizce Standart Versiyon

“I am a Jew, born in Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up in this city, educated at the feet of Gamaliel according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God as all of you are this day.

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παρὰ (para)
Preposition
Strong's Greek 3844: Gen: from; dat: beside, in the presence of; acc: alongside of.

Here "at the feet of" or "alongside of" a rabbi is an idiom, a metaphor for being formally trained by a rabbi. Note the preposition.

The idiom comes from the literal image.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

(3) Brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel.--His education may have begun shortly after he became a child of the Law, at the age of twelve. (See Note on Luke 2:42.) He, too, had sat in the midst of the doctors, hearing and asking questions. The Rabbis sat in a high chair, and their scholars on the ground, and so they were literally at their master's feet.

The scene in Luke is different.

Luke 10:39 English Standard Version

And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching.

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πρὸς (pros) Preposition
Strong's Greek 4314: To, towards, with. A strengthened form of pro; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. Toward.

In the case of Mary, the preposition is a different one. It indicates a location. Mary is not being formally trained by Jesus. She physically sat at the feet of Jesus.

These prepositions + accusative case are explained in https://ancientgreek.pressbooks.com/chapter/13/.

Is Luke applying the same meaning in Luke 10 as in Acts 22?

Yes, in the sense that both Mary and Paul were taught by their respective teachers.

No, in the sense of how formal was the training process. The verbs are different and the Greek prepositions are different. In Acts, the expression "educated alongside the feet of Gamaliel" is figurative. In Luke, "sat toward the feet of Jesus" is literal. Paul was formally trained as a Pharisee disciple by Gamaliel. Mary was informally taught as a disciple by Jesus.