Modèles de contraintes rythmiques / métriques

Aug 17 2020

Les images ci-jointes sont une page de Melody in Songwriting de Jack Perricone . Je connais bien le concept des modèles de stress dans la musique, mais honnêtement, je n'ai aucune idée de ce qu'il fait ici.

Premièrement, comment décririez-vous la différence entre «Rhythmic Stress» et «Metric Stress»? Il me semble que l'accentuation métrique n'est que le contour de l'accentuation des noires de différentes signatures temporelles, tandis que l'accentuation rythmique se concentre également sur les subdivisions.

Deuxièmement, quel genre de principes pensez-vous que l'auteur utilise pour trouver le stress «sommatif»? J'ai mis au point les "règles d'ajout" suivantes avant d'être frustré:

  1. Anything plus 0 is itself
  2. Weak stress (-) plus strong stress (/) is a moderately strong stress (//)
  3. Moderately strong stress (//) plus strong stress (/) is a strong stress (/)

Whether you agree with the author's analysis or not, can you at least help decipher the principles he is using? Thank you.

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3 Aaron Aug 17 2020 at 10:36

How would you describe the difference between "Rhythmic Stress" and "Metric Stress"?

As you say, metric stress is the basic beat pattern for the given time signature. It's not strictly accurate to link this to the quarter-note, though. For example, in 3/16 time, the metric stress of strong-weak-weak goes with the sixteenth note.

What sort of principles do you suspect the author is utilizing to come up with the "Summative" stress?

He's saying here is that rhythmic stresses combine with the metric stresses. For example, in a triplet starting on the beat, the rhythmic stress pattern is strong-weak-weak, regardless which beat it occurs on. However, if you have a measure of 2/4 time comprising two triplets, the "strong" beat of the first triplet will be stronger that the "strong" beat of the second, because metrically beat 1 is stronger than beat 2.

Your three principles outline this correctly. Another way to picture it would be wave forms. The metric pulse creates a wave, and the rhythmic pulse creates a wave. The sum of the two waves gives you the stress pattern for the measure.


EDIT: Understanding, based on your comments below, that your intention is to fit lyrics to the "natural" metric/rhythmic stresses, I would say that the unstressed half-beats would remain that way, treating them as effectively equal. The on-beats would go [ strongest 3rd-strongest 2nd-strongest weakest ], which matches the standard 4/4 pattern. So the composite would be [ / u /// u // u //// u ].

4 BiscuitTaylor Aug 21 2020 at 02:21

I have no disagreements with Aaron, Perricone, or you. As you pointed out, however, Perricone didn't explain what he meant by 'summative'. Your 'math' seems correct. I'll offer another way to look at it, mathematically. (This is not any standard methodology; just my interpretation of Perricone's work.)

/ (strong stress) can be thought of as 'play this note loud' (forte)
// (moderately strong stress) can be thought of as 'no special dynamics for this note' (let's call this pianoforte)
- (weak stress) can be thought of as 'play this note soft' (piano)

Now if you want to think of how these add mathematically, you could assign a value of 1 to forte, 0 to pianoforte, and -1 to piano. Think of a number line that only goes from -1 to 1, so anything above 1 is overflow, and results in 1. Below -1 results in -1. 1+1 = 1, and -1 + -1 = -1.

So p + p = p; f + f = f; f + p = pf; f + pf = f; and p + pf = p.

Here's a re-interpretation of Perricone's example. I've expanded the quarter-notes to tied triplets, to align them for easier addition. Tied notes are assigned the neutral value 'pf', or 0.

2 Athanasius Aug 27 2020 at 02:52

Although I don't exactly disagree with the other answers, my opinion is that the question is looking for a perfect mathematical system where there likely is none. I don't think the author of this book was intending an exact method with precise "rules" for "summing" the stress patterns.

Rather, as this is a book on songwriting, my guess is that it's just an ad hoc method for collapsing many levels of potential rhythmic/metric stress into the 2-3 levels of stress needed for text-setting. I'm assuming the author chooses three levels, with the intermediate stress level able to take either a stressed or unstressed syllable, depending on the text.

My reason for saying this is because I think before worrying about the mathematical system to create summative patterns, one first would need a rigorous mathematical way of defining where the rhythmic stress indications come from. And from the examples given, I'd say that's rather ad hoc, based on the local amount of rhythmic activity rather than the global "weight" of various beats or stresses. In the examples given in the question, one could identify 4-5 levels of stress, but that isn't helpful as a guide for text-setting. Instead, for text-setting, one needs to identify patterns of strong and weak syllables that roughly alternate. (It's rare to have more than a few strong syllables in a row or a few weak syllables all in a row.)

Unless there are more clarifying examples in the book, the summative just appears to be a rather loose way of combining both the global (metric) stresses with local (rhythmic) ones that are more dependent on the specific rhythm. Or, to state the principles in words, I think the author is basically saying, "Match stressed and unstressed syllables to the local rhythmic patterns, but don't forget to also give particular weight to the stresses created by the overall meter."

However, all of this is a tentative interpretation based on only the limited excerpt given in the question and some of the comments -- I haven't had a chance to look at the actual book for clarification.